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    bolski

    I have re-watched the previous seasons back to back now and starting
    from Season 1, after Drogo gives her brother the golden crow, you see
    she already has the beginnings of her mental state. She doesn’t flinch
    an inch when Drogo pours the boiling gold on top of Viserys’ head. Then,
    with the Unsullied merchant, she burns him. Yeah, he was a douche, but
    still, she burns him and turns the Unsullied on the slavers. Again, they
    were terrible people, but was it really required to kill them? Even
    Jorah and Barristan Selmy had looks of fear on their faces. And
    throughout her tenure as “Queen” (I put it in quotes because she’s truly
    not the queen and she’s doing exactly as her predecessors have done
    which is forcefully take over cities and ruled them as their ruler), she
    has laid a path of destruction, but trying to justify it as a means of
    freeing people. She further demonstrates her “Mad Queen” mentality when
    she crucifies the slavers, beheads a former slave for killing some Sons
    of the Harpy (who deserved it in many respects) and that turns the slaves against her,
    and eventually the penultimate show of her Mad Queeness when she burns
    Ranydll and Dickon Tarly.

    Every time she turns to do this, her Advisors
    (whether it was Jorah, Barristan and now Tyrian) attempt to talk her down. She eventually doesn’t
    listen and let’s her anger (and her feeling of being privileged if not
    owed the throne) take over. No wonder the North and Westeros fear her.
    Even when she finds out the Jon is the rightful heir to the throne, she
    won’t give it up. And when she finds that Jon cannot return his love to
    her the way she wants, she chooses fear, rather than possibly trying to
    work together with him. In other words, she will not give up the throne
    because she feels she is owed that throne rather than doing what is right for the country.

    I’m not dismissing what she
    went through (the torture, rape and abuse by her brother all her life,
    never having a true father figure other than possibly Jorah to guide her
    which even then, she refused to listen many times), but even when she
    had people guiding her, she eventually refused to listen and it has come
    back to bite her. She didn’t want to rule with fear at first, yet
    that’s what she did. So, as much as it might seem this story line was
    rushed, it started way back in Season 1, Episode 6 right when Viserys
    dies and just escalates from there.

    So I don’t believe it was rushed but I can see who many feel that way. I did too until I re-watched the earlier seasons a few times and picked up on subtle hints to her madness. The show didn’t dangle it out there in full view for us. It was hidden, to pull us into her view and see how things looked from her end. But last night, they switched it on us. Instead, we saw it from the victims eyes for the first time as to what it’s like to be on the receiving end.

    Overall, it’s just that there have been so many story lines with her and
    in the first viewing, I was behind her all the way. I think that was the
    goal until she executed the ex-slave for the murder of the Sons of the
    Harpy in their cells. The Tarly’s pretty much sealed her fate as another
    Mad Targaryen for me. Also, remember when she was adamant about Jon
    bending the knee? He eventually did for what he thought was the good of
    the North which it was. It brought her to fight the White Walkers which
    could have been a different story if she didn’t. Also, think of her
    introduction:

    “Queen Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, the
    First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men,
    Lady of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm, Lady of
    Dragonstone, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, the
    Unburnt, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons.”

    That seems like a pretty braggart way of introducing herself. Whereas
    Jon was introduced as “He’s the King of the North.” Sweet, simple and
    to the point. She was using all those titles to instill fear into those
    she took over. Not much different than the Huns and other brutal
    dictators and savages in our own history.

    No, overall, her story line was fleshed out in great detail, but they
    wrote it in a way where we felt for her and sided with her. Look at
    Jamey Lannister. And last night, I even felt sorry for Cersei because
    she finally realized she lost the game and was losing her child. I
    believe she really did have a child, but months had passed so I have NO
    idea why she wasn’t showing. Plot hole right there, but still, I did
    feel bad for her. Not to say didn’t deserve it. Jamie in many ways was
    flawed and this was probably going to be how it was going to end. They
    were born together so they die together with their unborn child.

    So now, what happens? Does Arya become the Queen Killer? She saw what
    Daenyers did to everyone in King’s Landing. So many innocents killed by
    her wrath and selfishness. Should be a good finale. Can’t wait!

    Reply
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    bolski

    I have re-watched the previous seasons back to back now and starting
    from Season 1, after Drogo gives her brother the golden crow, you see
    she already has the beginnings of her mental state. She doesn’t flinch
    an inch when Drogo pours the boiling gold on top of Viserys’ head. Then,
    with the Unsullied merchant, she burns him. Yeah, he was a douche, but
    still, she burns him and turns the Unsullied on the slavers. Again, they
    were terrible people, but was it really required to kill them? Even
    Jorah and Barristan Selmy had looks of fear on their faces. And
    throughout her tenure as “Queen” (I put it in quotes because she’s truly
    not the queen and she’s doing exactly as her predecessors have done
    which is forcefully take over cities and ruled them as their ruler), she
    has laid a path of destruction, but trying to justify it as a means of
    freeing people. She further demonstrates her “Mad Queen” mentality when
    she crucifies the slavers, beheads a former slave for killing some Sons
    of the Harpy (who deserved it in many respects) and that turns the slaves against her,
    and eventually the penultimate show of her Mad Queeness when she burns
    Ranydll and Dickon Tarly.

    Every time she turns to do this, her Advisors
    (whether it was Jorah, Barristan and now Tyrian) attempt to talk her down. She eventually doesn’t
    listen and let’s her anger (and her feeling of being privileged if not
    owed the throne) take over. No wonder the North and Westeros fear her.
    Even when she finds out the Jon is the rightful heir to the throne, she
    won’t give it up. And when she finds that Jon cannot return his love to
    her the way she wants, she chooses fear, rather than possibly trying to
    work together with him. In other words, she will not give up the throne
    because she feels she is owed that throne rather than doing what is right for the country.

    I’m not dismissing what she
    went through (the torture, rape and abuse by her brother all her life,
    never having a true father figure other than possibly Jorah to guide her
    which even then, she refused to listen many times), but even when she
    had people guiding her, she eventually refused to listen and it has come
    back to bite her. She didn’t want to rule with fear at first, yet
    that’s what she did. So, as much as it might seem this story line was
    rushed, it started way back in Season 1, Episode 6 right when Viserys
    dies and just escalates from there.

    So I don’t believe it was rushed but I can see who many feel that way. I did too until I re-watched the earlier seasons a few times and picked up on subtle hints to her madness. The show didn’t dangle it out there in full view for us. It was hidden, to pull us into her view and see how things looked from her end. But last night, they switched it on us. Instead, we saw it from the victims eyes for the first time as to what it’s like to be on the receiving end.

    Overall, it’s just that there have been so many story lines with her and
    in the first viewing, I was behind her all the way. I think that was the
    goal until she executed the ex-slave for the murder of the Sons of the
    Harpy in their cells. The Tarly’s pretty much sealed her fate as another
    Mad Targaryen for me. Also, remember when she was adamant about Jon
    bending the knee? He eventually did for what he thought was the good of
    the North which it was. It brought her to fight the White Walkers which
    could have been a different story if she didn’t. Also, think of her
    introduction:

    “Queen Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, the
    First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men,
    Lady of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm, Lady of
    Dragonstone, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, the
    Unburnt, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons.”

    That seems like a pretty braggart way of introducing herself. Whereas
    Jon was introduced as “He’s the King of the North.” Sweet, simple and
    to the point. She was using all those titles to instill fear into those
    she took over. Not much different than the Huns and other brutal
    dictators and savages in our own history.

    No, overall, her story line was fleshed out in great detail, but they
    wrote it in a way where we felt for her and sided with her. Look at
    Jamey Lannister. And last night, I even felt sorry for Cersei because
    she finally realized she lost the game and was losing her child. I
    believe she really did have a child, but months had passed so I have NO
    idea why she wasn’t showing. Plot hole right there, but still, I did
    feel bad for her. Not to say didn’t deserve it. Jamie in many ways was
    flawed and this was probably going to be how it was going to end. They
    were born together so they die together with their unborn child.

    So now, what happens? Does Arya become the Queen Killer? She saw what
    Daenyers did to everyone in King’s Landing. So many innocents killed by
    her wrath and selfishness. Should be a good finale. Can’t wait!

    Reply
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    bolski

    I have re-watched the previous seasons back to back now and starting
    from Season 1, after Drogo gives her brother the golden crow, you see
    she already has the beginnings of her mental state. She doesn’t flinch
    an inch when Drogo pours the boiling gold on top of Viserys’ head. Then,
    with the Unsullied merchant, she burns him. Yeah, he was a douche, but
    still, she burns him and turns the Unsullied on the slavers. Again, they
    were terrible people, but was it really required to kill them? Even
    Jorah and Barristan Selmy had looks of fear on their faces. And
    throughout her tenure as “Queen” (I put it in quotes because she’s truly
    not the queen and she’s doing exactly as her predecessors have done
    which is forcefully take over cities and ruled them as their ruler), she
    has laid a path of destruction, but trying to justify it as a means of
    freeing people. She further demonstrates her “Mad Queen” mentality when
    she crucifies the slavers, beheads a former slave for killing some Sons
    of the Harpy (who deserved it in many respects) and that turns the slaves against her,
    and eventually the penultimate show of her Mad Queeness when she burns
    Ranydll and Dickon Tarly.

    Every time she turns to do this, her Advisors
    (whether it was Jorah, Barristan and now Tyrian) attempt to talk her down. She eventually doesn’t
    listen and let’s her anger (and her feeling of being privileged if not
    owed the throne) take over. No wonder the North and Westeros fear her.
    Even when she finds out the Jon is the rightful heir to the throne, she
    won’t give it up. And when she finds that Jon cannot return his love to
    her the way she wants, she chooses fear, rather than possibly trying to
    work together with him. In other words, she will not give up the throne
    because she feels she is owed that throne rather than doing what is right for the country.

    I’m not dismissing what she
    went through (the torture, rape and abuse by her brother all her life,
    never having a true father figure other than possibly Jorah to guide her
    which even then, she refused to listen many times), but even when she
    had people guiding her, she eventually refused to listen and it has come
    back to bite her. She didn’t want to rule with fear at first, yet
    that’s what she did. So, as much as it might seem this story line was
    rushed, it started way back in Season 1, Episode 6 right when Viserys
    dies and just escalates from there.

    So I don’t believe it was rushed but I can see who many feel that way. I did too until I re-watched the earlier seasons a few times and picked up on subtle hints to her madness. The show didn’t dangle it out there in full view for us. It was hidden, to pull us into her view and see how things looked from her end. But last night, they switched it on us. Instead, we saw it from the victims eyes for the first time as to what it’s like to be on the receiving end.

    Overall, it’s just that there have been so many story lines with her and
    in the first viewing, I was behind her all the way. I think that was the
    goal until she executed the ex-slave for the murder of the Sons of the
    Harpy in their cells. The Tarly’s pretty much sealed her fate as another
    Mad Targaryen for me. Also, remember when she was adamant about Jon
    bending the knee? He eventually did for what he thought was the good of
    the North which it was. It brought her to fight the White Walkers which
    could have been a different story if she didn’t. Also, think of her
    introduction:

    “Queen Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, the
    First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men,
    Lady of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm, Lady of
    Dragonstone, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, the
    Unburnt, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons.”

    That seems like a pretty braggart way of introducing herself. Whereas
    Jon was introduced as “He’s the King of the North.” Sweet, simple and
    to the point. She was using all those titles to instill fear into those
    she took over. Not much different than the Huns and other brutal
    dictators and savages in our own history.

    No, overall, her story line was fleshed out in great detail, but they
    wrote it in a way where we felt for her and sided with her. Look at
    Jamey Lannister. And last night, I even felt sorry for Cersei because
    she finally realized she lost the game and was losing her child. I
    believe she really did have a child, but months had passed so I have NO
    idea why she wasn’t showing. Plot hole right there, but still, I did
    feel bad for her. Not to say didn’t deserve it. Jamie in many ways was
    flawed and this was probably going to be how it was going to end. They
    were born together so they die together with their unborn child.

    So now, what happens? Does Arya become the Queen Killer? She saw what
    Daenyers did to everyone in King’s Landing. So many innocents killed by
    her wrath and selfishness. Should be a good finale. Can’t wait!

    Reply
  4. 4
    Avatar

    bolski

    I have re-watched the previous seasons back to back now and starting
    from Season 1, after Drogo gives her brother the golden crow, you see
    she already has the beginnings of her mental state. She doesn’t flinch
    an inch when Drogo pours the boiling gold on top of Viserys’ head. Then,
    with the Unsullied merchant, she burns him. Yeah, he was a douche, but
    still, she burns him and turns the Unsullied on the slavers. Again, they
    were terrible people, but was it really required to kill them? Even
    Jorah and Barristan Selmy had looks of fear on their faces. And
    throughout her tenure as “Queen” (I put it in quotes because she’s truly
    not the queen and she’s doing exactly as her predecessors have done
    which is forcefully take over cities and ruled them as their ruler), she
    has laid a path of destruction, but trying to justify it as a means of
    freeing people. She further demonstrates her “Mad Queen” mentality when
    she crucifies the slavers, beheads a former slave for killing some Sons
    of the Harpy (who deserved it in many respects) and that turns the slaves against her,
    and eventually the penultimate show of her Mad Queeness when she burns
    Ranydll and Dickon Tarly.

    Every time she turns to do this, her Advisors
    (whether it was Jorah, Barristan and now Tyrian) attempt to talk her down. She eventually doesn’t
    listen and let’s her anger (and her feeling of being privileged if not
    owed the throne) take over. No wonder the North and Westeros fear her.
    Even when she finds out the Jon is the rightful heir to the throne, she
    won’t give it up. And when she finds that Jon cannot return his love to
    her the way she wants, she chooses fear, rather than possibly trying to
    work together with him. In other words, she will not give up the throne
    because she feels she is owed that throne rather than doing what is right for the country.

    I’m not dismissing what she
    went through (the torture, rape and abuse by her brother all her life,
    never having a true father figure other than possibly Jorah to guide her
    which even then, she refused to listen many times), but even when she
    had people guiding her, she eventually refused to listen and it has come
    back to bite her. She didn’t want to rule with fear at first, yet
    that’s what she did. So, as much as it might seem this story line was
    rushed, it started way back in Season 1, Episode 6 right when Viserys
    dies and just escalates from there.

    So I don’t believe it was rushed but I can see who many feel that way. I did too until I re-watched the earlier seasons a few times and picked up on subtle hints to her madness. The show didn’t dangle it out there in full view for us. It was hidden, to pull us into her view and see how things looked from her end. But last night, they switched it on us. Instead, we saw it from the victims eyes for the first time as to what it’s like to be on the receiving end.

    Overall, it’s just that there have been so many story lines with her and
    in the first viewing, I was behind her all the way. I think that was the
    goal until she executed the ex-slave for the murder of the Sons of the
    Harpy in their cells. The Tarly’s pretty much sealed her fate as another
    Mad Targaryen for me. Also, remember when she was adamant about Jon
    bending the knee? He eventually did for what he thought was the good of
    the North which it was. It brought her to fight the White Walkers which
    could have been a different story if she didn’t. Also, think of her
    introduction:

    “Queen Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, the
    First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men,
    Lady of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm, Lady of
    Dragonstone, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, the
    Unburnt, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons.”

    That seems like a pretty braggart way of introducing herself. Whereas
    Jon was introduced as “He’s the King of the North.” Sweet, simple and
    to the point. She was using all those titles to instill fear into those
    she took over. Not much different than the Huns and other brutal
    dictators and savages in our own history.

    No, overall, her story line was fleshed out in great detail, but they
    wrote it in a way where we felt for her and sided with her. Look at
    Jamey Lannister. And last night, I even felt sorry for Cersei because
    she finally realized she lost the game and was losing her child. I
    believe she really did have a child, but months had passed so I have NO
    idea why she wasn’t showing. Plot hole right there, but still, I did
    feel bad for her. Not to say didn’t deserve it. Jamie in many ways was
    flawed and this was probably going to be how it was going to end. They
    were born together so they die together with their unborn child.

    So now, what happens? Does Arya become the Queen Killer? She saw what
    Daenyers did to everyone in King’s Landing. So many innocents killed by
    her wrath and selfishness. Should be a good finale. Can’t wait!

    Reply

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